When Law And Order Breaks Down: “If I Had to Be an Animal, I Was an Animal. It Was About Survival.”—THIS IS THE REALITY


Our friend Selco at SHTF School will change everything you may think about your life in a post-collapse world. For many of us, the idea that the world around us may fall apart and lead to the worst that humanity has to offer is mostly theoretical. For Selco, it was a reality. He experienced a total grid-down collapse in war-torn Sarajevo during the 1990’s – and he lived to tell the tale. He has shared his knowledge with our community over the last few years, and in the article below he changes our perceptions once again. Just because we are making preparations – stocking food, or supplies or guns – means nothing if the mind is not prepared to comprehend the absolute horrors that may come.

Do you want to know what it will be like when law and order break down, when people turn on each other, and when there is no one to depend on except for those in your inner circle?

Then keep reading.


Walking the Line Between Human and Animal
by Selco

As many long term readers know, I like to talk about the important but what some may call the “not so spectacular” part of survival that is not as much fun as, for example, talking about latest guns and gadgets.

Today I want to talk about dignity and what it means in a survival scenario. Before I talk from own experience, read the extract below from the diary of Lieutenant Colonel Mervin Willett Gonin who describes what happened after his unit freed the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during the second world war.

At the moment of his writing, hundreds of people were still dying and it was a place of pure horror.

It was shortly after the British Red Cross arrived, though it may have no connection, that a very large quantity of lipstick arrived. This was not at all what we men wanted, we were screaming for hundreds and thousands of other things and I don’t know who asked for lipstick. I wish so much that I could discover who did it, it was the action of genius, sheer unadulterated brilliance. I believe nothing did more for these internees than the lipstick. Women lay in bed with no sheets and no nightie but with scarlet red lips, you saw them wandering about with nothing but a blanket over their shoulders, but with scarlet red lips. I saw a woman dead on the post mortem table and clutched in her hand was a piece of lipstick. At last, someone had done something to make them individuals again, they were someone, no longer merely the number tattooed on the arm. At last, they could take an interest in their appearance. That lipstick started to give them back their humanity.

The importance of still being human and not becoming a complete animal is often overlooked for people who prepare for long term survival. I had over one year to fight against becoming like rats around our house during the war.

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Expect to become more like an animal

You can have all equipment ready for SHTF – ammo, weapons, gear… you can even be perfectly well trained in a lot of different skills and fields and still when SHTF you can end up dead in the first days just because you “refuse to believe” what’s happening.

It is that state of mind when a man simply does not want (or is not able) to comprehend the new situation.

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It can be one quick life threatening situation like folks attacking your home and you just waited few seconds too long to shoot some attacker, and then you are dead, end of the story. Or it can be the whole process of failing to recognize the new world around you and the new rules (or absence of rules) and then again you just not doing correct things for the situation, and again you end up dead.

An example would be that when SHTF you are trying desperately to have and use power generator and light all rooms in your houses just because it means normal life for you. And that normal life is gone, and trying to bring it back in that situation usually means more troubles.

Holding on to all the comforts and behavior you are used to can be dangerous.

To make a long story short, what I am trying to say is that you may be trained and equipped like a SEAL team member and yet you can still be killed easily from some 70 years old dude, with even older rifle just because you were surprised when SHTF with amount of destruction and violence and you did not see that old dude coming (or being so evil).

On the other side, that old dude maybe lived through a couple of SHTF events in his life, and he knows when it is time to act without hesitation and mercy.

There is still a fine line you have to walk between losing your human side and becoming a pure animal.

One of the things that changed a lot when SHTF is fact that everything became really dirty.

It was something like a slow process, first people tried to keep it as clean they could, but without all normal services, like garbage trucks, running water and all other community services that make normal living soon it simply became impossible.

Later all garbage was used somehow, but in beginning, it started piling up everywhere, when you add to that ruins on the street, human waste and dead bodies it was a very ugly picture.

After some time, we started to accept dirt outside and it then was a priority to stay clean and keep clean only inside that small circle inside your home, and when I say „clean“ I do not mean „clean“ like today. Maybe as clean as we could be.

For example simply moving through the city in the middle of the night meant that you needed to crawl, jump, hide, walk or run through all kind of things, and very often some real nasty and dirty things.

Many times I was hiding in places so dirty that stench was almost paralyzing, once in the middle of the night I jumped behind some wall because of sudden shelling, and when I jumped there I realized that I landed on a dead guy.

His face was smashed with the broken wall and partially buried, place there was so small that I had to actually lay on him for some 20 minutes. He died probably when the wall from the house collapsed after some shelling, who knows.

Fire from the shelling was so strong that I actually loved that dead guy and that place in that moment. I almost hug him while I was trying to be as small as possible because pieces of steel and rock were flying around me just like some crazy rain, while my stomach was rising and floating from the detonations and smell.

All I was saying at that moment was „thank you, thank you, thank you“ like some magic words, and I even was not aware who do I thank to, that dead stinky guy, my brain for noticing that small space, or God for saving me.

Today years and years later I still carry that smell inside my nose. But I did not move from there before the danger was gone. It is survival and luckily I was already used to dirt enough to just stay with that dead guy.

Some folks just stopped to care about cleanliness and hygiene completely. So for them washing and cleaning become something like not wanted luxury. They went complete animal.

They simply stopped to care about these things, so I also knew some guys with a look and smell so awful that even dead guy smelled like perfume store.

It was easy to surrender to stuff like that, I mean in trying to keep yourself clean.

But it was stupid not only in terms of the hygiene and illnesses, also by surrendering yourself you admit that you do not care anymore, and when you admit that you are only a few steps from becoming an animal with what you do too. People give up on themselves.

For me being as clean as I could be had something like preserving one of the last connection with “normal” life, with life before sh!t hit the fan, when things like neighbors, breakfast, car etc, were just things we took for granted, like things that always gonna be there unchanged.

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Of course, I was aware that being clean is important in order to stay alive because of all diseases problem, no doctors hospitals etc. but on some psychological level it kept me sane and it kept me, normal man.

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After The Collapse Series

Even in a survival situation, you need to still care about few little things to keep your dignity, to keep spirit up, to not lose yourself. If you stop caring about everything it is like a disease that eats you.

When I came back from trading or scavenging in the city, I would clean or wash myself thoroughly in my yard before entering my house, again of course because common sense, hygiene and diseases, but maybe even more important I tried to keep all chaos and violence, suffering outside of my home on some psychological level.

I try to stay out of the everything, or actually, I tried to keep everything outside of my home, like some ritual. I would keep the clothes for outside in bag, my boots were in one corner, never entering my room in it etc.

One of my relative wears pink slippers (mittens) when he was home sometimes, he would say that he just felt that everything is fine when he wears it. It was spooky and strange to see him in pink slippers while outside world is going to hell, but we all have some strange ways I guess to keep ourselves sane. Maybe wearing those slippers after he was forced to shoot some folks kept him sane, reminded him of some normal times when grandma wear it in the evenings.

On the other side, like I said in the beginning if you stick too much to old habits you are not doing best for survival too.

So if I had to be an animal, I was an animal. It was about survival. For example, there was a period when I eat just to survive, like an animal, without paying attention what I eat or how. If I found some food I ate it in a quick way, if there was some food with worms in it, I would eat it in dark, without looking what I eat etc.

The point was (and still is) to be a man but to be ready to be an animal if you are forced to be an animal, and that’s it. It comes down to being flexible, adapting to the situation and I hope this helps to crush the idea some Hollywood or fantasy survival scenarios show that survival is about being a complete animal. No, it is a fine line to walk.

You can (and you have to) have as much hand sanitizers, soap, disposable face masks etc. as you can but you can still end up dead if you are not ready to accept fact that one day you might be forced to „hug“ dead guy in order to survive or eat roast rat or pigeon.

Once next collapse comes many people will wake up to reality and struggle to be human like they were or become animals and as skilled survivalist I hope you will walk a fine line in between. The people who were walking that path were and I’m sure will be those who have biggest chances to survive.

Throughout my life I have been caught unprepared several times and while nothing seriously bad happened, it easily could have. I managed to get myself out of each situation, I thanked God, and tried to learn from my mistakes. I have also tried to learn from the mistakes of others so as to not learn everything the hard way.I aspire to be more prepared the next time. My preparedness includes many different aspects. In my opinion, the most important thing I have done is to learn as much as possible about what to expect and how to deal with those situations. The most comprehensive and accurate reading in the preparedness field I could recommend is The Lost Ways. If I had read this book 10 years ago I could have avoided these situations or made them much less unsafe and worrisome. Reading this book, made me more aware and prepared than ever. Click the video below to get a better understanding of what The Lost Ways really is.


  1. How to kill a scavenger in your home and then smile at your children and make love to your wife? I don’t know. Pink slippers maybe.
    I do know that my anger will be focused where it belongs – on the left, which has brought us to this brink.
    Great firsthand advice.

  2. I’ve had a guy with kids tell me he would have no problem murdering someone else who had what he wanted just to feed his kids. That kind of parent is just as dangerous as any other scavenger, and likely about as common in shtf. Just because they have a family to tug at your heartstrings doesn’t mean they’re Jesus loving conservative patriotic Americans. I fear this kind of man will end up dead sooner or later and that will doom his family. Shtf will be trying times for certain.

  3. I was born in Pegnitz Germany in a DPO Camp… see: Hillebergs återförsäljare – europe.hilleberg.com

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  4. i was recently asked what I would do if society went into total chaos. My reply was that I fervently pray for a pre-tribulation rapture and you should too. My reasoning is that if left in a chaotic environment to defend my mortal well being for faith, family, friends, and my GOD given liberties I’ll be like those Godly Warriors of The Holy Bible. I’ll be reactive, I’ll be relentless, and I WILL BE RUTHLESS to my enemies. I don’t want to be here and the world surely doesn’t either!

  5. Some things comes to mind here. One is that most of the folks in Sarajevo are muslim, giving rise to the real reason why Serbia attacked them in the first place. Second is that without Mrs Clinton’s husband bombing the Serbs and stopping the war, Sarajevo would gave been obliterated and Kosovo wouldn’t have been carved out of Serbia. Picture the muslims in Dearborn in open revolt against the USA, trying to carve a caliphate out of Michigan, and the UN stepping in to support them, this is what they want to do to the US and they have the Kosovo example to justify it. Kosovo is more or less those Serbs who were converted to islam when Serbia and that region of Europe was invaded by jihadists. After the jihadists were forced out, some kept islam and this caused irritations to develop between the christians and muslims because of all the cutting at the neck and kill all infidels and so on You can read about why the war started in various places. Anyway, Selco had the chance to flee Kosovo and immigrate to America aka the world, but when shtf inside the US there will be no world for anyone to flee to. I guess that’s the goal, to make this beautiful country into a 3rd world shithole.